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Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.13 06:59:00 - [1] Downloading it now. Before I get home from the office (to a waiting premium client beta!) will it work on tiger? Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.13 09:23:00 - [2] Originally by: zoolkhan i dont bother - just a macbooc (2.4ghz, but unsupported) just tiger and not the fancy leopard the classic client works here - for a while (memory leak?) then it locks up entire machine it does not matter if i do anything or not, perhaps it locks up faster if i do something but also with just beeing docked a while - it will eventually lock up. you can go and test your premium on those hi end boxes, while i continue to use bootcamp and run a native client (cedega still sucks, it is just an emulation, not native code) on windows xp - on the same box that ironically would not be supported under its own OS that it was built for by apple computer inc. Well this one should perform BETTER than the current classic. I'll try in on my macbook air to see if there any hope of proper performance on older macbooks. It's not native I know, but it's the best we are getting. The memory leak is a known issue. We all get it. Tabbing out and it will make it go crazy even faster.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.13 14:18:00 - [3] Originally by: Pivalak What about the beta of the Premium client for Linux? Soon. Sorry, couldn't help it Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.13 16:20:00 - [4] iMac 20" 2.16GHz C2D, 2Gt Ram, Radeon X1600 256mt, OSX 10.4.11 Doesn't work. It get's stick in entering station (the one where there is that small window and all black, I guess this is the black screen thing. So no Premium for my iMac. 1st gen Macbook Air running Leopard First start: login window was normal, but after entering the game everything except the GUI was white. All white. If I rotated the "white interior" I could see a light source affecting the GUI. I undocked and same thing in space. So I docked and rebooted. Second start: Ok, I'm seeing premium. Default values give me a steady 3.6 fps inside the station and 2-6fps in space (unplaybe and jiggy) Ok, custom settings: 1024x768, no shadows, extreme cache 512mb. getting around 8-10fps in space. The fps is a very stable though. I was at a gate looking at it, empty space and generally going all boners with the camera and the fps won't budge. It stays at approx 8fps. Looks nice (no problems), but performance is poor even compared to classic. Also the client feels much slower doing loggins, quits and everything else other than playing. Just feels...sluggish. Classic feels faster. Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.14 13:52:00 - [5] Does anyone else have a Macbook Air? Just so that we could check if the performance is the same, or is just my rig that's working poorly. I did see a topic about someone using a Macbook with X3100 and he had better performance (although it's a different cpu though, but still).
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.14 16:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Aratadu on a quick scan of posts, is it laptop vs. desktop processors? b/c the current mac client looks beautiful and runs smooth on 1st gen intel iMac, much less so on my core 2 duo macbook pro with faster processor and more ram and newest leopard build...just a thought - Do you mean the premium client? I still can't use premium on my 2nd Gen iMac (C2D). It just get's stuck on "entering station" and i can hear the music and all. Classic side of the premium client seems work nicely and actually feels...snappier. Not sure if there have been any changes in it (or is it just the lack of player amounts doing it).
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.14 16:56:00 - [7] Originally by: Hagis McBree OSX 10.4.11... this is your issue.. Apple has updated the drivers only in 10.5 not 10.4, upgrade already. What a brilliant idea. So I go out and buy leopard, then wait a while and go out and buy snow leopard! Marvellous! Also I have no need to upgrade other than CCP's code because I have leopard on my laptop and it's not really bringing any "new" value to my imac if I do so. Will premium lite (when it's released) support Tiger at all? As the HW is getting the axe... It's a rather radical move from CCP to axe both HW and OS (perhaps).
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.14 17:54:00 - [8] Ok, I spent a litte more time on SiSi now. Tried to fiddle with basically everything you can fiddle and the performance on a 1st gen Air is on default stuck at 8fps. While fiddling and playing around with shadows (high quality actually raises performance) I get around 8-15fps (real jiggy though) Shadows off and on, same fps. Window mode, fullscreen, same fps. Different resolutios, same fps. Fiddling all over, same fps. HDR on, all black. Whoops... Classic or premium...same fps. (classic does jump up and down on the fps, and i tried all the settings with similar results. Before someone says it's a poor processor...well from what I'm looking eve is leaving 30-40% of cpu power unused. (Eve is using around 100-110%, while in space.) At station the fps is like 3-4fps, but in space 10-15fps, and in station eve leaves 50-60% of cpu and still the fps is even worse. So Eve is farm from using the cpu efficiently, so it might be up to the GPU, but X3100 is a supported one... more coding boys :) Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:17:00 - [9] I switched audio hardware acceleration off and got this: Exception error Unhandled exception 0xc0000409 at address 0x76551037. Do you wish to debug it ? Macbook Air 1st gen, OS X 10.5.6
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:27:00 - [10] It's a good thing they have two months to fix all these issues, cos in two months classic goes bye bye Stop whining.

Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.15 09:00:00 - [11] Are you a new player? (aka not mirrored to sisi) Is you sisi account activated (did you get yourself banned?) Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.15 14:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Hagis McBree yes it will not work on 10.4 Dr Sheepbringer has tried it on his iMac and it didn't work. Apple has upgraded the graphics drivers in 10.5 but not 104, but hopefully 10.6 (Snow Leopard) will be out by then so you could skip 10.5. Well it's only my iMac, so it might be case sensitive, but overall I think us Tiger users are just calling for trouble, so my advice is to upgrade, but not now! I just hope that CCP is up to par with Snow Leopard. SW is rumored to be released in Q1 (same as Premium Lite and classic shutdown). So I personally am planning on upgrading to Snow Leopard, not only Leopard. It's cutting close and I with that either Premium Lite works on Tiger at that time (if SW gets delayed) or if CCP is having trouble with SW (Just because it works smoothly on Leopard doesn't automatically mean it will run smooth on snow leopard). I would hate to upgrade from Tiger (on which Eve might not work) and to Snow Leopard and notice that it's not working properly on that one. Also, I'm not planning on buying two OS X versions inside a timeframe of months.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.16 09:41:00 - [13] Originally by: DeTroya WOW! There is a huge difference from the previous client! I was able to do several jumps successfully. How on earth did they ever manage to sell the current classic as a finished product to us Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.18 22:35:00 - [14] Originally by: aldinir 1: imac with the 2,16 ghz, 2 GB and the ATI radeon X1600. so fare im not even geting to the station. it crashes at "entering station" wonder why? Sounds familiar. Hey even the specs are identical :) IF you are running tiger, then it's probably a tiger thing...BUT if you have leopard there...then it's a HW thing.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.19 13:30:00 - [15] Originally by: aldinir Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Originally by: aldinir 1: imac with the 2,16 ghz, 2 GB and the ATI radeon X1600. so fare im not even geting to the station. it crashes at "entering station" wonder why? Sounds familiar. Hey even the specs are identical :) IF you are running tiger, then it's probably a tiger thing...BUT if you have leopard there...then it's a HW thing. I am runing leopard Oh crap... is the X1600 a 128mb or 256mb? Mine is 256mb and because I have tiger...then it's not just about upgrading to leopard for me. Damn it. So this is looking a bit grim. Our imacs currently don't work in either OS versions... Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.19 20:11:00 - [16] At least CCP said that the X1600 iMac/MBP are the basis for acceptable performance. So it should run, another thing is what is considered acceptable performance...i mean look at the state of the mac client now (not premium) and it's definitely acceptable to CCP. Premium should run better than the current classic, but who knows if they add too much shine so that it will more efficient, but ultimately slower... So I'm hopeful it will run on the X1600 iMac.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.22 08:08:00 - [17] I've had a few mac laptops and yes they do get hot, but I haven't had a single overheating problems (with the exception of eve). If you do the math with only ventilation sure, it shows it will burn, but remember that these machines use their cover as a heatsink (and a quite effective one). I've done 3D rendering (GPU assisted) on full tilt on many occasions and everything was more or less running at 200% for hours. Did it get warm? Sure, did anything fail or blow up? No. How about not keeping them laptops on fluffy carpets and cats sitting on them. But I'm still furious with Apple. I can't use my laptop underwater. Bstards.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.24 18:09:00 - [18] Any progress on the X1600 issue? I would actually like to test my imac with premium... Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.28 06:05:00 - [19] Will there be a update on SiSi before march? Of are we once again going on good faithful not-so-tested client? Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.28 11:55:00 - [20] Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Will there be a update on SiSi before march? Of are we once again going on good faithful not-so-tested client? You can't read the dev post 10 posts above? Nope, I'm blindfolded when it comes to devs. Doctors say it's a trauma from seeing one with pink hair, blowupdoll and overall looking like a pervert. Stop whining.

Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.29 09:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Dreeder Just noticed the Log-Off button doesnt seem to work at all... which isnt good. It's being fixed. I don't think it has ever worked (can someone correct me if I'm wrong?).
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.31 21:11:00 - [22] Originally by: Klyn Today i tried the beta. I'm not very impressed. Just flew into a Lvl1-Complex. When the enemies started shooting, i got a (the) graphic-bug. Most textures got pink, the modules on the hud and the white text were garbled, grainy and intransparent. The music stuttered a lot, i had to turn it off. OS: OS X 10.5.6 ò CPU: 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo ò RAM: 2Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.GB ò VIDEO: ATI Radeon X1600 128Mb Damn. I think you are the first who I know, who has managed to PLAY premium with X1600!
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.02 09:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Ben Sullivan Jesus **ing * christ. Well, I know nothing about computers - I think this is my graphics card: Intel GMA X3100 Guess I'll have to upgrade it.=[ Thanks for telling me anyway. You shouldn't need to upgrade it, the X3100 is SM3 capable. Of course the performance is going to blow, but it's integrated graphics, so what do you expect? Well I'm running a X3100 on the macbook air and classic + premium are performing identically. It's a skill changing machine, but the stupid thing is that Eve is CPU hungry and thus it doesn't even use it to the max. I'm having like 40-60% of free CPU and it's free! Optimizing boys, optimizing... With that said, CCP said that premium should perform betters so it could be possible that Eve will run decently enough on these X3100 setups. It's another matter if it's "supported", but I personally think it's a ****ed idea to make a mac client that ONLY supports like this year mac models (not even all of them), and pretty much scraps everything else. I hardly think that the mac users are all using this year models. Also, we don't change or upgrade the frigging platform every year! I understand this is different from the PC side, but why have a mac client then. Oh well, enough of this rant. I hope the premium lite will get a significant boost in performance in the next month....hmm...actually, if it ships on March 10th with boxes also...then shouldn't they have the gold version already? Scary... Stop whining.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.02 10:22:00 - [24] Originally by: Ben Sullivan Umm now I'm confused. I was told it was not going to work. Yeah, I see the GUI but nothing else... btw this is the beta for full premium not premium lite right? That should be fien to run...I hope If it supports SM3 then it should "run", but that's pretty much tossing a coin and hoping for it. If it works, good, if not...well it's not supported. I still think they will try and make it run on anything that's possible. Specially when you consider that Apple sells even today a laptop, that's not on the supported list. As for the premium to be lite or premium...no idea. I'm a bit scared that if they are only testing the premium...it would be nice to test the lite version also. But hey, I would just go for actually to be able to run the premium one a supported machine. That's a no no at the moment for me. I would be interested in knowing what happens if I currently play with a Eve-capable Mac, then after March it's not capable anymore... any refunds or is just "adios, thanks for the subcription money untill Christmas"

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